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#340604 - 03/02/10 12:25 PM Shorter Days Ahead ...
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According to NASA ... the earthquake in Chile (not Peru as previously reported) caused the Earth to fall off it's axis. This is causing shorter days. I never knew an earthquake could have such an impact on this world.
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#340617 - 03/02/10 12:39 PM Re: Shorter Days Ahead ... [Re: Woody]
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WOODY

THAT is interesting but how can the days we shorten???

will we still have 24 hours in a day???

dgrimm60

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#340619 - 03/02/10 12:40 PM Re: Shorter Days Ahead ... [Re: dgrimm60]
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Originally Posted By: dgrimm60
WOODY

THAT is interesting but how can the days we shorten???

will we still have 24 hours in a day???

dgrimm60


Uh, that would be a "gotcha," Woody.

Good one, dgrimm.

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#340620 - 03/02/10 12:41 PM Re: Shorter Days Ahead ... [Re: karl]
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Not me ... NASA
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#340621 - 03/02/10 12:41 PM Re: Shorter Days Ahead ... [Re: Woody]
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I'm just the messenger folks. Please don't shoot the messenger!!
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#340624 - 03/02/10 12:43 PM Re: Shorter Days Ahead ... [Re: Woody]
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WOODY

I am not going to shot the messenger so dont worry

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#340625 - 03/02/10 12:44 PM Re: Shorter Days Ahead ... [Re: dgrimm60]
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WOODY

SO NASA is that one saying that the days will be shorter

hhhmmmmmmmm


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#340628 - 03/02/10 12:48 PM Re: Shorter Days Ahead ... [Re: dgrimm60]
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The days are only shorter by milliseconds. I don't think you're going to notice.
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#340629 - 03/02/10 12:49 PM Re: Shorter Days Ahead ... [Re: rudywoofs]
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RUDYWOOFS

WELL OK THEN

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#340636 - 03/02/10 01:03 PM Re: Shorter Days Ahead ... [Re: dgrimm60]
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Originally Posted By: dgrimm60
WOODY

SO NASA is that one saying that the days will be shorter

hhhmmmmmmmm
dgrimm60


Yes dgrimm. They say that we have now lost a little of our life because of that earthquake. And the scientist that was interviewed by Fox ... stated that we would lose that portion of life for all of eternity. Yes, a portion of each day for the rest of our days. Sad but True.
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#340640 - 03/02/10 01:17 PM Re: Shorter Days Ahead ... [Re: Woody]
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WOODY

WELL I guess we will have to live with these shorten days

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#340652 - 03/02/10 03:27 PM Re: Shorter Days Ahead ... [Re: Woody]
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Originally Posted By: Woody
Originally Posted By: dgrimm60
WOODY

SO NASA is that one saying that the days will be shorter

hhhmmmmmmmm
dgrimm60


Yes dgrimm. They say that we have now lost a little of our life because of that earthquake. And the scientist that was interviewed by Fox ... stated that we would lose that portion of life for all of eternity. Yes, a portion of each day for the rest of our days. Sad but True.


This is not totally sad. There are elements of wonderfulness! The merry-go-round has got to be spinning faster if the revolution time is shorter.

Maybe the increased friction will cause global warming and bring on another optimal climate age.

This changes EVERYTHING! Let's have a revolution. A faster one.

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#340657 - 03/02/10 03:51 PM Re: Shorter Days Ahead ... [Re: karl]
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RUDYWOOFS
I guess it is like leap year the extra mins but
not that noticable

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#340658 - 03/02/10 03:52 PM Re: Shorter Days Ahead ... [Re: dgrimm60]
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RUDYWOOFS

EXCEPT we are losing the sec not addings like in leap year

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#340659 - 03/02/10 03:57 PM Re: Shorter Days Ahead ... [Re: dgrimm60]
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Not sure that I even believe that? But maybe they have always known this and are just letting us in on this! Seems very strange that we've had all these earthquakes and now all of a sudden it will shorten the daylight of each day!

pk
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#340665 - 03/02/10 04:09 PM Re: Shorter Days Ahead ... [Re: dgrimm60]
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Originally Posted By: dgrimm60
RUDYWOOFS
I guess it is like leap year the extra mins but
not that noticable

dgrimm60


It may not be noticable to you. But personally ... I value each moment of my life. And now I have less life. :(

Chile must have been very evil to bring this upon the planet.
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#340699 - 03/02/10 04:54 PM Re: Shorter Days Ahead ... [Re: Woody]
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Originally Posted By: Woody
Originally Posted By: dgrimm60
RUDYWOOFS
I guess it is like leap year the extra mins but
not that noticable

dgrimm60


It may not be noticable to you. But personally ... I value each moment of my life. And now I have less life. :(

Chile must have been very evil to bring this upon the planet.


You should spend some time with my second aunt, Millie. We call her Millie 2nd.

I hope there's some payoff from losing milliseconds. Maybe if we could get rid of some of our ohnoseconds at the same time it would be worth it.

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#340706 - 03/02/10 05:18 PM Re: Shorter Days Ahead ... [Re: karl]
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Less than milliseconds: microseconds.

And no, your life will not be any shorter. Say I'm measuring a door frame, and the ruler shrinks a bit. The door frame is still the same size, I'll just get a different measurement. Same deal: your life is still the same length, the units you're measuring it in have just changed.
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#340707 - 03/02/10 05:20 PM Re: Shorter Days Ahead ... [Re: Bravus]
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1.26 millionths of a second, according to this article:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/03/100302-chile-earthquake-earth-axis-shortened-day/

...and even then, there are a lot of 'should haves' and 'maybes' there...
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#340709 - 03/02/10 05:22 PM Re: Shorter Days Ahead ... [Re: Bravus]
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Originally Posted By: Bravus
1.26 millionths of a second, according to this article:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/03/100302-chile-earthquake-earth-axis-shortened-day/

...and even then, there are a lot of 'should haves' and 'maybes' there...


So Bravus does this happen each time there's an earthquake? And if this is the case, why are we just hearing about this now? But like you say its no big deal anyway.

pk
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#340710 - 03/02/10 05:27 PM Re: Shorter Days Ahead ... [Re: pkrause]
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PKRAUSE

THAT is a good question about how often this happens

dgrimm60

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#340711 - 03/02/10 05:27 PM Re: Shorter Days Ahead ... [Re: pkrause]
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Good Question pk. If with each earthquake we lose a little of our life ... pretty soon it will amount to a lot. :(
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“When the enemy comes in like a flood, and seeks to overwhelm you with the thought of your sin, tell him: "I know I am a sinner. If I were not, I could not go to the Saviour.” 1 SM 325
"Christ will always accept the faith that puts its trust in Him." - Andrew Murray (1828-1917)
I believe in Hematology.


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#340713 - 03/02/10 05:29 PM Re: Shorter Days Ahead ... [Re: Woody]
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I actually was not thinking of it that way, but yes this does make sense, Woody and dgrimm! So Bravus let us know what the story is?

pk
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#340714 - 03/02/10 05:30 PM Re: Shorter Days Ahead ... [Re: pkrause]
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And Bravus I have another question! When they say day, are they talking about the 24 hour day? or are they talking about the amount of light per day?

pk
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#340717 - 03/02/10 05:34 PM Re: Shorter Days Ahead ... [Re: pkrause]
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Quote:
So Bravus does this happen each time there's an earthquake? And if this is the case, why are we just hearing about this now? But like you say its no big deal anyway.


No, the reason it would have happened (may have happened) this time is that a huge area of the sea floor, and hence a huge mass of rock and mud, was thrust upward by some distance. One of the articles I read compared it to an ice skater: if they extend their arms out from their bodies their spin slows, if they pull them in the spin speeds up. Similarly, some mass moved further out from the centre of the earth, slightly slowing the earth's rotation.

Most earthquakes involve sideways movement along faultlines, not upward or downward movement, so would have no effect on the earth's rotation. It's possible that the earthquake that caused the disastrous Boxing Day tsunami a few years ago was an upthrusting quake (hence the tsunami), and therefore it may also have slightly affected the earth's rotation.

The effects are miniscule, of course, and as I noted earlier, do not change the lengths of our lives by even those miniscule amounts... But I guess it's fun to play as if they do...
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#340724 - 03/02/10 05:41 PM Re: Shorter Days Ahead ... [Re: Bravus]
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BRAVUS

WELL thank you for this infromation

dgrimm60

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#340725 - 03/02/10 05:43 PM Re: Shorter Days Ahead ... [Re: dgrimm60]
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Yes. Me 2. I am greatly relieved. :)
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#340727 - 03/02/10 05:49 PM Re: Shorter Days Ahead ... [Re: Bravus]
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Thanks for the info Bravus. Do you think that at the flood, we had this same situation? Because I would imagine that the earth must of had some very large EQs to cause massive amounts of water coming out of the earth? And if this EQ could knock the earth a little more off its axis, I wonder if this could've happen at the flood?

pk
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#340757 - 03/02/10 07:00 PM Re: Shorter Days Ahead ... [Re: Woody]
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If each day is a little bit shorter, then we will have a larger number of days, and therefore will live longer!!

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#340771 - 03/02/10 07:13 PM Re: Shorter Days Ahead ... [Re: Dottie]
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DOTTIE

WELL that is an interesting thought

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#340830 - 03/02/10 10:51 PM Re: Shorter Days Ahead ... [Re: Dottie]
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Yes Indeed Dottie. Good Point. But this is just getting more and more complicated. We DO need to get to the bottom of this so that I will know though.

Keep up the good work folks.
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#340835 - 03/02/10 11:14 PM Re: Shorter Days Ahead ... [Re: Bravus]
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Thanks, Bravus.

It's great having a real scientist on board, to explain all this technical stuff.
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#340879 - 03/03/10 08:46 AM Re: Shorter Days Ahead ... [Re: Jeannieb43]
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Well Jeannie. You could just listen to me :)

I sleep at the Holiday Inn and listen to Fox News. :)
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“When the enemy comes in like a flood, and seeks to overwhelm you with the thought of your sin, tell him: "I know I am a sinner. If I were not, I could not go to the Saviour.” 1 SM 325
"Christ will always accept the faith that puts its trust in Him." - Andrew Murray (1828-1917)
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#340883 - 03/03/10 09:20 AM Re: Shorter Days Ahead ... [Re: Bravus]
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Originally Posted By: Bravus
Similarly, some mass moved further out from the centre of the earth, slightly slowing the earth's rotation.

Wait a millisecond, now.

If the earth's rotation is slowed, we should be getting more time, not less per day.

And what about those ohnoseconds? I want to get rid of some of them.


Edited by karl (03/03/10 09:29 AM)

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#340885 - 03/03/10 09:46 AM Re: Shorter Days Ahead ... [Re: karl]
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Karl, the scientist I saw yesterday on the FNC explained it in detail. Except he said the exact opposite of what Bravus said. He said that the rotation had sped up by 1.6 milliseconds. He also compared it to a spinning ice skater, and said that it was like pulling the arms in. He went on to say that the earth had actually contracted. So you were right karl. in order to get less time, it has to speed up.

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#340887 - 03/03/10 09:52 AM Re: Shorter Days Ahead ... [Re: Richard Holbrook]
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Karl, the scientist I saw yesterday on the FNC explained it in detail. Except he said the exact opposite of what Bravus said. He said that the rotation had sped up by 1.6 milliseconds. He also compared it to a spinning ice skater, and said that it was like pulling the arms in. He went on to say that the earth had actually contracted. So you were right karl. in order to get less time, it has to speed up.


Ok, good. I was thinking of wasting a millisecond or two here on CA, but now I'll type faster.

You still need to help me get rid of some of those ohnoseconds.

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#340921 - 03/03/10 02:01 PM Re: Shorter Days Ahead ... [Re: karl]
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Thanks, karl and Richard: yeah, shoulda thought that explanation through a bit more and realised it explained a longer day, not a shorter one. The net effect of the earthquake must have been to lower some mass rather than raise it.
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#340935 - 03/03/10 03:06 PM Re: Shorter Days Ahead ... [Re: Bravus]
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HEY ALL

SO have we gain or lost here

dgrimm60

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#340936 - 03/03/10 03:09 PM Re: Shorter Days Ahead ... [Re: dgrimm60]
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HEY ALL

SO have we gain or lost here

dgrimm60


Your remaining life has been shortened by the time it took you to post the above. It will be appropriate to panic in T minus 60 seconds... and counting.

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#340938 - 03/03/10 03:13 PM Re: Shorter Days Ahead ... [Re: karl]
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KARL

oh ok

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#340958 - 03/03/10 05:10 PM Re: Shorter Days Ahead ... [Re: karl]
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Quote:
"Your remaining life has been shortened"


This is exactly what my fear was. Thank you for clarifying this. Now I know. :)
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"Christ will always accept the faith that puts its trust in Him." - Andrew Murray (1828-1917)
I believe in Hematology.


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#341003 - 03/03/10 08:57 PM Re: Shorter Days Ahead ... [Re: Woody]
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#341008 - 03/03/10 09:18 PM Re: Shorter Days Ahead ... [Re: Woody]
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So than the end will come quicker than expected? :)

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#341038 - 03/03/10 10:07 PM Re: Shorter Days Ahead ... [Re: pkrause]
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My days were much too long anyway.

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#341210 - 03/04/10 05:16 PM Re: Shorter Days Ahead ... [Re: Richard Holbrook]
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My days were much too long anyway.


Good one Richard. :)

pk
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